Thorsten's current
"Illusion Engine"
Date of "Visit":
29 April 2000

"Re-visit":
29 April 2000

Third Visit:
13 September 2001

Fourth "Visit"
12 October 2002


the system


electronics


Software - great Music, that what's it all about! Also a Nitty Gritty record cleaner.


Oracle Delphi turntable, top view


left speaker and subwoofer, front view


right speaker, front view


 

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My name is Thorsten. 

I am an Analogue Addict. 

I have not always been an Addict, but I think it started early. I was listening to Aida and Satchmo on my parents record player (it was STEREO! Wow). This was one of the all in one units where the Speakers (or rather the poor excuse that passed as such) where also making up the lid. 

Later I had my own Record-Player (the first of many). So begun the downward slide that led to me being the sad case of analogomania dementis. In the years to come, I was no longer content to regularly visit the Record-Shops and Libraries to get my "fix". Sadly I became involved in the production of this addictive substance called Vinyl. Actually I used to do Master tapes - much worse than only pressing records or pushing [selling] them.... 

Then I walked away from my-home-country (former East-Germany) into the sunset and started a new life. Still I continued with this unhealthy habit and soon the record-collection I had left behind looked small compared to the one I had now. 

Luckily another change in my life brought me to London. Here the remains (I only kept few records with me) of my old record collection where sitting on the shelf for a long time due to the lack of anything to play them. How happy I was. I was cured... happily I listened to small silver disk's spinning in a cheap piece of Lo-Fi.... I had an "honest" job at last, no more mixing desks, late night jam sessions and spinning dem records as DJ. 

My life was finally turned around (or so I thought). 

Then I decided to buy a Home-Cinema system and so I did. While I was buying things I noticed a cheap old second hand Sansui turntable. How nice it would be if I could have another listen to these old treasured records. How much we had been through together... 

Having put the Turntable into my new system; I found that I could handle it. I would listen to a side of a record every now and then and then put a CD in the Player again. I finally controlled the old disgusting habit. That was a relieve. 

Then it happened. I noticed that the music just did not sound right. So I tweaked, build, modified... Now again I have a "good" Stereo and my addiction has come back worse than ever. I am haunting seedy London 2nd Hand Record shops regularly just to feed the habit. I am Spending more money on vinyl than on any other drug.... I am doing all sorts of strange things with my stereo no normal and sane person would do, just to make the sound from the Vinyl that little bit better.... 

My social life is in ruins. My bank balance lethal negative, my girlfriend left and my friend's and relatives disassociate themselves from me while I sit "glued" in the sweet spot... panting... 

"Just this record, only this one side of Fleetwood Mac and than I will go down to the pub (and when I arrive they called time an hour ago....) or to meet a date or......" 

Such is state of affairs. Doctor HELP!

Things have gotten even worse since I wrote the above. I now write for a number of on-line Audio magazines and I am also Member of the "London Live DIY HiFi Circle" : http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9170/. My System moves more and more towards a pure DIY one and my Record Collection has recently exceeded the 2 Meter Mark (all Records lined up next to each other are over 2m wide) and shows no signs of stopping to grow. 

System's Components
 

Turntable:

The Turntable is an Oracle Delphi MK III, with some upgrades to MK IV Status. The Tonearm is an Origin Live modified Rega RB-250 tracking (at 2.5g) a Goldring Elite low Output Moving Coil Cartridge.

Preamp:

Homebuild full function Preamp using a Circuit similar to the legendary Arthur Loesch Preamplifier, however with a trick Input input stage using a 417A Valve and a J-Fet for more Gain, lower noise and better sound. The second Gain stage uses a 6GK5 valve with a 5687 in the Linestage rounding up the Sound.

Volume and Balance control's use 32-Position military grade switches and individual Holco Resistors. Many other components are pretty antique and rare.
 

CD Player:

Pioneer DV-505 DVD-Player, heavily modified and upgraded.

Power Amps:

Homebuilt direct coupled 300B SE Stereo amplifier, including fully Valve Regulated Power supplies. Power output is around 10 to 15W per channel.

Speakers:

Full range horn-loaded Speakers (Beauhorn Virtuoso Gold), augmented below 50Hz with a Visaton/Southcoast Speakers designed active 10" Subwoofer and using two Visaton TL16 Supertweeters with a 1uF Audionote Paper/Oil Capacitors as sole Crossover component.

The system manages 25Hz - 30kHz (-6db) in room with a surprisingly flat Frequency response. Sensitivity in room is 103.5db/2.83V/1m for one Speaker, measured with pink noise.

Cables:

Wide range of homemade Interconnects and Speaker cables, as well as XLO, DNM/Reson and Audion Silver Cables. Current choice are my latest Foil, Finewire and Airdielectric cables.

Accessories:

Large Michell "tenderfeet" cones under the speakers, homemade isolation platform (constrained layer damping and air suspension) under the Turntable. I use mixtures of adjustable Goldring "Perfect Sound" cones and Dunlop  yellow dot Squash balls under Preamp and CD-Player.

The Power amplifier is placed on extra-large Goldring "Spike dampers" (point up) and is placed on a sandwich made from two glass shelves with four Foculpod Deflex isolators in-between.

Behind the listening position is a large and heavy Wall-hanging and loads of soft furniture doubles up as "Bass-Traps".

For cleaning Records I have the Orbitrack Record Cleaning system and a Nitty Gritty Model 2.5FI Vacuum Record cleaning machine. Record cleaning Fluid is my own secret recipe, mixed from rare organic ingredients only by full moon (just kidding).

Thorsten's comments about his System:

AA: "Thorsten, how would you describe your system's sound?"
TL: "The system excels at scale and dynamic. The Imaging and soundscaping also ain't too shabby. Quite frankly, I like it. A lot actually. It manages very often a convincing Illusion of listening to real music." 
AA: "Do you think there is room for improvement?"
TL: "This is a rhetorical question. Unless something is perfect there is always room for improvement. And I have yet to come across something perfect. At the same time I feel no mad urge to make changes to the system. I'd rather listen to the music."
AA: "Have you got plans for upgrading?"
TL: "The number of project in the waiting is Legion. I have a few interesting Speaker drivers around that should make interesting Speakers, there are various analogue and digital electronic projects. One of these Days I'm likely gonna buy a new Cartridge, possibly a Shelter 501 from Japan. Who knows."
 


The left Speaker in room, to show the scale


the right speaker and electronics


The "Legacy 300B" Amplifier, based on chassis and Transformers of the Edison 60 Kit Amplifier

Re-Visit Notes:

Well, while the Beauhorns where on more or less permanent loan from Eric Thomas I had in my cupboards these old Drivers from Goodmans and wanted to really get them going. After a number of discussions and encouragement from fellow Joe-List members Jean-Michel Le Cleac'h and Thomas Danley I decided upon a very unusual but promising configuration.

Without going into too much detail, the Speaker has only a simple X-Over for the Piezo Tweeter which comes in at about 15kHz (-6db), both other Drivers are operated fullrange and operate acoustically and electrically in parallel. The result is a speaker with 101db/W/m Sensitivity  uncritical 7.5 Ohm

Impedance and in room bass down to around 30Hz. 

The "centerpiece" is the world renowned Goodmans Axiom 80 driver, reckoned by many to be the best "fullrange" driver ever made. My ones are originals made in the late 1960's, not the reissue versions from the late 1980's, which reputedly sound notably inferior.

Meanwhile I had also done some changes to the Power amp, it still uses 300B Output Valves, but the rectification is now with Valves and the Driver stage is a simple EL84/SV83 Pentode and RC coupled. The Sound of the Amplifier changed IMHO to the better, even though Power is down to about 7 Watt with the 300B. Another change was to make the Amplifier easily adjustable for a wide range of Output Valves, including the 2A3 and 45.

Another addition was the Steinmusic "Clear" Mains filter for the Turntable (and CDP). Despite the fact that turntable operates on pure DC from a PSU with multiple levels of Filtering and about 200,000uF Capacitance adding this Filter made a rather dramatic improvement. The CD-Player showed similar but even greater levels of improvement.

The most recent Change was a new House, offering me a much larger living room and overall loads of more space, a garden and a nice garden shack (can you say "mechanical workshop").

The pictures included where taken AFTER a recent Meeting and "audiophile housewarming". Most noticeable perhaps is that the piles of records on the floor of my previous domicile have found Shelve-Space now. Even better, the record cleaning machine has now it's own shelf and hence is in much more frequent then before, simply by virtue of being readily and immediately available.

I do feel that the system now is even better sounding than with the Beauhorns and at the same time it is less intrusive, the differences are modest however.


the room


the right side


the rack


Acoustic Solid turntable


Consonance M500

 

Third Visit Notes (13 September 2001)
(This is NOT a virtual Re-Visit!)

Probably the best part of London 2001 Hi-Fi Show was meeting interesting audio personalities and one of them was Thorsten Loech. In fact before my departure to London, I had contacted him to arrange an appointment for a real visit to his place. We met at Novotel in the afternoon of the first day and soon after took the underground from the nearby Hammersmith station.

Since the previous visits (see above), Thorsten's system has been completely renewed. I asked him to list the components of his new system. So, here we go:

Turntable:

Acoustic Solid (Germany) Solid One, with dedicated, sandfilled tubular stand. Three tonearms fitted, including Origin Live modified Rega RB-250 with a Goldring Elite low output moving coil cartridge, a SME 3009 Series 1 with a Denon DL-103 and an Ortofon RS-212 Special with a Ortofon SPU-GTE.

Preamp:

Normally a DIY copy of the Shindo Claret Preamp with a variety of MC Stepup Transformers, during the Photosession a Opera Audio (Beijing) Consonance Reference 1.2 Preamplifier.

CD Player:

Philips LHH-1000 DAC (modified with Burr Brown OPA627 Op-Amps and vaious Capacitor replacements as much for age as for sound), Pioneer DV-505 DVD-Player, heavily modified and upgraded as trasport as well as a Teac P-500 Transport (still stock).

Power Amps:

Opera Audio (Beijing) Consonance M500 Monoblock Amplifier (aka Diyhifisupply "Billie" Kit), including several upgraded capcitors, Ken Rad VT-229 Driver, Mullard GZ32 Rectifiers and TJ Mesh Anode Globe 300B Output Valves.

Speakers:

Tannoy Monitor Red 15 in Enclosures build to the Tannoy Factory Corner York plans. The enclosures are made from 1" solid, staveglued wood boards and additionally heavily damped, crossovers and drivers are absolutely original and mint. Also used are a pair of Fostex FT-17H Supertweeters with simple 1st Order Crossover at around 22kHz.

Cables:

Homemade Interconnects and Speaker cables, current choice are my latest foil, finewire / litzwire and airdielectric cables, including battery biased screens on all line signal cables.

Accessories:

Heavily modified Behringer Ultracurve 8024 Digital Equaliser, used both as room/speaker correction system and to correct recording flaws concerning tonality. This is located on a movable small rack and connected via a 6m long "multicore" to allow it to be placed directly at the listening position when desired, similar to the Cello Palette.

Modified Marantz SX-72 digital "scratch noise surpressor", this unit is effective in eliminating pops and clicks from damaged records while only mildly intruding on the subjective soundquality, if set for not too agresssive noise surpression.

Large Michell "tenderfeet" cones under the speakers, homemade isolation platform (constrained layer damping ) under the Turntable, Final Labs Daruma under the DVD Player. Behind the listening position is a large and heavy Wall-hanging and loads of soft furniture doubles up as "Bass-Traps".

The room has been extensively treated with 1" white felt disks (from the home improvement store - sold to be used under the legs of furniture to prevent scartching wood floors), applied in the same system and manner as the Combac Harmonix roomtunes.

For cleaning Records I have the Orbitrack Record Cleaning system a Nitty Gritty Model 2.5FI Vacuum Record cleaning machine and a cleaning system using a microfibre cloth from Acoustic Solid. Record cleaning Fluid is my own recipe.

The two speakers were at both corners of the room. Even with a wide angle lens I had a problem fitting them in a single picture (see at the top). Consonance M500 power amps were fitted with Mesh Anode 300B's. The good proof that the anode is mesh is that you can see the filament through it (see picture at the bottom). It is said that these Mash Anode 300B's are even better than the WE ones. Three years ago Dave Slagle had proven the superiority of mesh plate 50 over a standard 45 by making me listen to both of them. I don't think that we can deduce that all mesh plates are superior to standard plates regardless of the valve, but it appears that the point is also valid for 300B's.

We listened to a variety of CD's and LP's, including my own evaluation CD's that are listed in the London 2001 Show review section.

I was amazed to hear how loud Thorsten's system can play without any hint of compression or distortion or fatigue. It is breathing so effortlessly even during the most dynamic and challenging passages. The bass control was excellent. The sound was detailed and natural. Consequently the system excelled particularly on orchestral music. I now understand why people go mad over these vintage Tannoy drivers. The only small problem was room related: the column between the two speakers (or should I say in the center of the stage) was slightly disturbing the imaging of the soundstage (though Thorsten does not agree with me on this point).

Thorsten shared with me a very interesting tweak of his own consisting of the inner magnetic disc of a 5.25" old style floppy disc (which should be cut to exactly match the diameter of the CD). All you need to do is to place this floppy disc on top of your CD. The on-and-off testing clearly showed that when the tweak was in place the sound had more presence, more inner detail, more air and more depth. And the improvements were far from being subtle. Back at home I tried the same tweak on my Marantz SA-1, but this time the differences were much subtler. So I recommend to try it on your own CD players as the tweak costs nothing.

The next day we met again at the Show. This time Thorsten was with his girl friend. I took a few pictures of the couple and placed the best one on top of this page in lieu of Thorsten's previous portrait.

It was a great pleasure to meet Thorsten who is a very colorful and good-humored person, and listen to his most original system. At least it was something that made my London visit worthwhile.


amps


amp bottom


phono stage


phono stage bottom


phono psu


transformer attenuator (TVC)


tweaked Tannoy driver


turntable with new Rega "Silver 250" arm


Steinmusic "Clear" power conditioner


equalizer left


equalizer right


rack

 

Fourth "Visit" Notes (12 October 2002)

Over the last year my system has stayed fundamentally the same, however the electronics have seen drastic changes.

I have attached a number of pictures relating to the changes, where apropriate also schematics.

Amplifier Schematic

Phono Equaliser Schematic

Phono Power Supply Schematic

I have rebuild my Amplifiers comprehensively, including an all Film Capacitor Powersupply with more Chokes, Choke Filtered Heater Voltage for the 300B, a WE 437A as Driver Valve, choke loaded coupled to the gridchoke loaded 300B Grid. Rectifier is now WE 274A. The resulting Amplifier has much more refinement and naturalness than the original Billie kit. While originally work-titeled "Lady Day", these amplifiers definitly deserve the "Fugue" designation (this would be MK IV) that I have allways retained for my very best pieces of work.

The Preamp section is now split into a passive linestage and seperate phonostage.

The Phonostage uses a prototype 600 Ohm Constant Impedance RIAA EQ module made by Stevens & Billinton Audio Transformers, the MC Stepups build into the phonostage are also from Stevens & Billington of the Type TX-103 MKII, offering 26db Stepup and about as close to a "wire with gain" as any transformer I tried. I have fitted three inputs, two using the internal MC Stepup and one Moving Magnet level Input. Switching is carried out with hermetically sealed gold contact relays.

The Phonostage uses the legendary Siemens/Valvo E810F high transconductance pentode in the first stage as pentode and in the second stage triode wired. The powersupply is valve rectified and extensively LC filtered. A total of 6pcs 120uF/400V Ansar Supersound Capaitors and 8 pcs 5H/100mA Chokes are used for the HT in conjunction with a GZ34 Rectifier. In the end this I call now the Toccata MK V Phono, the Linestage is of course the Toccata MK V Line.

Prior to commisioning this phonostage I used for a while the "l'Pacific" all J-Fet phonostage my friend Jon had build; based on the Circuit from le Maison de l'Audiophile. Considering how simple and comparably inexpensive the "l'Pacific" is this phonostage must count as quite a bargain. Compared to my all out realisation described above however the sound of the "l'Pacific" is somewhat hard, opaque and lacking in immedicay and actile detail. Yet such a comparison is of course pretty meaningless, the material cost of the Toccata MK V Phono by far exceeds 1,000 British pound, a copy of the "l'Pacific" can be build easily for < £ 100 including a substantial battery supply.

The Linestage of choice, ever since I had it going, is a simple passive device based around the Stevens & Billington TX-102 MK I Transformer Attenuator (often called TVC for short). To make this short and simple, using a transformer with multitapped secondary as attenuator in a passive line control unit is about the most transparent way of controling the volume level. Subjectively the dynamic range is much increased over each and ANY resistive control and again the transformer behaves very much as "wire with attenuation".

Another change where some modifications on the Tannoy Drive units, I removed the dustcap and lackquered the cone with Dieter Ennemosers C37 Lackquer, much to the benefit of the sound. A last change was to upgrade from the Origin Live modified Rega Tonearm to their new "Silver 250" Tonearm, a very worthwhile improvement for the sound from Vinyl. A number of powerconditioning devices including the new version of the Steinmusic "Clear" sit on the lowermost deck of the Rack, currently joined by the chock full 3HE 9.5" width Case of the Phonostage Powersupply.

Just for fun I have also included the EQ Curves for Left & Right that are needed to achieve absolutely flat response (+/-0.5db) from 20Hz to 20KHz, not that I neccesarily listen to the system using these settings.

The results of the changes in electronics was to increase at the time the ability of the system to retrieve very fine detailwhile doing it in such a natural and unobvious way that at the time music has become much more coherent and humane. The tonality is also another small step closer to reality. The system has retained it's ability to play rather loud and the excellent dynamics be it loud or quiet have taken a further step ahead. No doubt I'll keep tinkering, but at the moment I'd be hard pressed to pinpoint any weaknesses that are not fundamental to the kind of system employed (somewhat limited volume ceiling due to using low power amplifiers) or due to the rather small and akwardly shaped listening room. Of course, it's not "The absolute sound", yet very enjoyable and true to the music. Recordings are presented well, be they audiophile Recordings or quite bad ones, there is enough transparency and dynamic range in the system to make even poor quality live recordings (Try Chicago - "Beginnings" for bad) listenable and enjoyable.

Having recently had the chance to listen live at the Royal Festival Hall to Mussorsky/Ravel's "Pictures at an Exhibition" (I use both the reference recordings CD version of this and an EMI LP with the Philadephia Symphonic Orchestra & Claudio Abbado from 1979 as some of "reference" recordings) I feel that what is reproduced by my system captures the essence and gestalt of the music as well as can be expected within the limitations of stereo recordings replayed in a fairly small room. Smaller scale works and types of music which are a somewhat better fit to a normal size living room of course manage a very convincing illusion, yet such was never that dificult to achieve anyway.

 

 

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